Victims of the Gays: Frank Turek

There have been a few stories in the news recently about religious people claiming to have been discriminated against over their views on marriages. First up is Frank Turek. Mr. Turek is a contractor providing leadership training seminars for various large corporations. Turek also happens to be the author of "Correct, Not Politically Correct; How Same-Sex Marriage Hurts Everyone" and dozens of articles at TownHall.com, many of which were expressly anti-gay. Upon discovering this a Cisco employee went to Cisco's Human Resources department and complained. Cisco responded by declining to further do business with Turek.

As you watch the National Organization for Marriage's video propping Turek up as a victim and cause celeb of the the anti-gay movement remember something, Turek was not fired. Turek is an independent contractor. Upon discovering many of his views where highly inflammatory and controversial the company decided to cease doing business with him. That is not being fired! It is losing a contract because your views deeply offend a significant chunk of the population.




First of all as I said above, Turek was not fired. He lost business over his views. Would anyone care if he'd written a book espousing racist views? But hey, we agree on one thing, no one should be "outed and fired", so maybe now NOM will support ENDA?

So Turek claims he was fired simply for supporting traditional marriage, but is that true? Well here's a video of Turek claiming that homosexuals (along with Muslims) hate America, hate Christianity and want to make any criticism of them illegal.




Turek has also compared being gay to being an alchoholic or pedophile:

"If you are born with a genetic predisposition to alcohol, does that mean you should be an alcoholic? If you have a genetic attraction to children does that mean you should be a pedophile? What homosexual activist would say that a genetic predisposition to anger justifies gay-bashing? (Don’t blame me—I was born with the anti-gay gene!)"

And of course you can't compare gay people to child rapists and alcoholics without comparing us to sociopaths!



So hey, maybe this had less to with discrimination and more to do with Turek's many incredibly offensive comments. I've said it before and I'll say it again, it is one thing to be against gay marriage, it is an entirely separate thing to demean and libel an entire group of people. You should feel comfortable explaining that you don't agree with gay marriage at work if the topic comes up. You should not however assume that religious liberty gives you the right to call other people diseased, broken, sick, perverse etc. without facing the consequences of such inflammatory language. Nor do you, as an independent contractor, have the right to complain if you lose business because of such comments.

Christian Anti-Gay Fringe Goes Mainstream, Lively Speaks With Moody Pastor

Scott Lively is a gay-rights activists best friend. The man's Holocaust revisionist book, 'The Pink Swastika', makes numerous ridiculous claims, namely that Hitler and his SS were really all gay, and gay rights will lead to fascism and another holocaust. Lively was also involved in the now notorious "Kill The Gays" bill in Uganda. The man is a walking cliche of religious homophobia and heterosexism.

Lively's Holocaust revisionism has, in the past, caused many more mainstream conservatives and evangelicals to distance themselves from him. That's why I found it interesting that Lively will be speaking at a conference put on by Peter LaBarbera's Americans For Truth About Homosexuality. While LaBarbera is not exactly mainstream, he is given far more credit by the conservative and evangelical world than Lively.

The really shocking part though is who Lively is speaking with, Moody Church pastor Dr. Erwin W. Lutzer. While many may not recognize Dr. Lutzer (though he does have three radio shows that broadcast all over the country, and Moody is a popular mega church), Moody is certainly a household name in evangelical circles. The Moody Church, while not officially affiliated with the Moody Institute or Moody Publishing, was founded by the same man as the other two more well known Moody organizations, Dwight L. Moody.

So what the heck is going on here? Are traditionalist evangelicals, in their desperation to win their losing battle, turning more and more to the wackos? Do they really think that any of the evangelicals who have begun to shift on this issue will be convinced by the likes of Lively? I don't know, but I certainly hope they continue destroying their credibility on this issue by associating with the likes of Lively.

(h/t to Joe.My.God)

The Victim Card

From a great NYT piece about the anti-gay bullying problem in the Anoka-Hennepin school district:

One of the plaintiffs, Kyle Rooker, 14, has not declared his sexual orientation but was perceived by classmates as gay, he said, in part because he likes to wear glittery scarves and belt out Lady Gaga songs. In middle school he was called epithets almost daily, and once he was urinated on from above the stall as he used the toilet.

This right here is why I get filled up with just a bit more disgust and rage every single time some anti-gay activists tries to paint themselves as the "real" victims in this debate. Here's my advice if you are a Christian in a America and thinking of playing the religious persecution card, particularly when talking about sexual minority issues: Ask yourself, been urinated on lately? Beaten up? Had a friend killed for their beliefs? Know any Christians killing themselves to escape the torment? No? Then maybe keep your mouth shut.

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Barber, Reisman: All Gay Men Want Is Little Boys

Matt Barber recently spoke with Judith Reisman of the Liberty University School of Law on his Faith and Freedom radio show. During their conversation Reisman claimed that, "the aim of homosexual males and now increasingly females is not to have sex with other old guys and get married but to obtain sex with as many boys as possible." Matt Barber of course just sat silently agreeing, after having provoked Reisman's comment by asking, "aren’t they really running interference for the pedophile movement here? By sexualizing these children, making them receptive to potential advances from adults?"

No hate here, right?

Minnesota Marriage Battle Update: Christopher Plate Joins Minnesota Marriage Coalition

Christopher Plate, who headed up the successful Rhode Island chapter of the National Organization for Marriage, is heading to Minnesota. And if you live in Minnesota you'll surely be hearing plenty from him in the months to come. But when he tells you this battle isn't about animus against gay people just remember, this is the man who once claimed that for gay couples children are little more than "an accessory I put in my purse," you know, sort of like "little tea cup dogs."

Wow, really have to love it when the anti-equality folks do our work for us.

Hate? What Hate?

I was reading an article over at Townhall.com about Bank of America's firing Frank Turek, who had written at anti-marriage equality screed. The article itself wasn't particularly compelling, same old accusations and victimization along with the typical trope that anyone who does not want to work and/or associate with heterosexists or homophobes is a fascist member of the thought police. What was really interesting though was the comments section. Anytime I need a reminder of how much BS the "we really really don't hate the gays!" line is I just peruse the comments section of any anti-gay article or site. Here are a few choice snippets...

"Oh, and by the way, ever fabricate a reason for man/man marriage? You still can't? Wow, that stinks."

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"I have never met a dim-witted homosexual but they are often very immature.
The suicide rate stuff is a fabrication. As is the marital discrimination concept.
Government doesn't ask orientation for death certificates or marriage licenses."

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"We label tobacco products with warning labels because smokers die younger.
Since male homosexuals die a lot younger, should they have a warning label?"

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"Tens of thousands of homosexuals tell us they'd get married if same-sex marriage were legal.

When same-sex marriage is offered, less than 2 percent of homosexuals actually get married. 

What's the truth? What do they really want? 

If government declares homosexual relationships equal to normal ones, government schools
must offer separate but equal homosexual sex-ed for seventh graders afflicted with the disorder."

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"No, homosexuality is more like diabetes. Some folks will get it no matter what.
For others, avoiding certain habits will prevent it and for some others, behavior modification can send the disorder into remission."

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"No...I would say [homosexuality is] far worse than leprosy."

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"These folks are determined to teach homo-sexual sex to commoner children. 

Why? 

Notice the obsession with child rapist Harvey Milk. They demand kids honor Harvey because of his lifestyle which included relentlous raping of a youngster.

Have we seen the face of evil yet?"

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"10,000 years ago Mother Nature and the Heavenly Father got together and engineered life so homosexuals could never gain access to a childs mind. 

Notice their obsession with the kids. Homosexuals are using the media and government to gain access to children against the wishes of parents. 

Since the dawn of time, homosexuals never had access to the children. 

As society, do we know where we're going? Do we know where this ends?

They do."

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"marxist qu.eers"

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"you taught your 'son' the wonders of homosexuality, he tried it and it stuck.
Now he wants to use straight nomenclature and so do you, Fine Melech.
Trouble is, the 'son' of David cannot acquire rights equal to marriage
without abandoning 'gay pride'. This is why he refused to marry the man.
David/Sarzak recommend a way that proud homosexuals can gain rights.
Your way is opposed by 99% of the homosexual community.
Most homosexuals refuse to marry.

Most homosexuals want rights equal to marriage, do you really don't care?"

I know what this looks like, but just remember that anti-equality activists' opposition to marriage equality totally has nothing to do with animus towards gay people...